your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
Viv I may have conceded to you on my " did man land on the moon?" thread, but sadly you weren't around for me to even the score on my " I AM THE WORLDS GREATEST LOVER" O.P -:(
Anyway back on topic, It's a great shame for entertainment value that Viv left the board when Slimboyfat returned, and now Viv returns and Slim has left. How is that on topic? Well it just proves so much of life just evolves simply by chance.
The Rebel.
starting this thread because of katewild's post.
(from where came god?).
the unanswerable questions of life are usually attributed to: "we are imperfect, so cannot understand.
berrygerry, the entire basis of your O.P is based on Adam being created perfect. Therefore could you kindly tell me where you get this information from? If from the bible, the paragraph and section would be appreciated.
The Rebel.
having left the witnesses i hope i won't get " fooled again".
yet life outside the organisation seems one big advertistiment telling me how useless i am.
these advertisements tell me i am physically ugly, which can only be corrected by buying the advertisers " answer to my prayers" product.
Onager " The people telling you that you are to fat, ugly, dirty or uncool are after exactly the same thing the Jehovers Witnesses are : Your money."
The Rebel ( A) summed my O.P up perfectly. I would also like to add this is why I like " Billy-the ex Bethelites" avetor. Trust me Billy looks nothing like that, but he is relaxed enough about himself to not need project an image of masculinity/ sexuality that advertisers deem necessary.
I also think it wonderful if people can except themselfs for who they are in appearance and not how society/ advertisers says they should be projected. Both masculine and feminine beauty fades, but the fruit with-in the shell is who we are .
The Rebel.
having left the witnesses i hope i won't get " fooled again".
yet life outside the organisation seems one big advertistiment telling me how useless i am.
these advertisements tell me i am physically ugly, which can only be corrected by buying the advertisers " answer to my prayers" product.
Thanks for the reply " redpilltwice" or should I say " meet the new boss same as the old boss"
The Rebel.
having left the witnesses i hope i won't get " fooled again".
yet life outside the organisation seems one big advertistiment telling me how useless i am.
these advertisements tell me i am physically ugly, which can only be corrected by buying the advertisers " answer to my prayers" product.
Having left the Witnesses I hope I won't get " fooled again". Yet life outside the organisation seems one big advertistiment telling me how useless i am. These advertisements tell me I am physically ugly, which can be corrected if I buy the advertisers product. Then having corrected my physical imperfections I discover, according to advertising my family home is unhygienic,and without a certain vacuum cleaner, named the " Swivel Sweep" I am basically a pig.
Personally I say life outside the Watchtowr is about creating emotional security and happiness....let's not get fooled again. Therefore let's leave the Watchtoer and "not get fooled again" I say it's who we are and not what we are not, which makes us the people we are and love". Translation l---k advertising.
The Rebel.
yesterday a friend invited me to a barbecue .
late in the evening for some reason a guy with tattoos all over his arms, who i didn't know shouted out " i hate jehovers witnesses".
anyway i noted a sudden quietness in the group, but basically the entire comment passed me by.
Stuckinarut2 " And did this leave to a good conversation with him about WHY you left?
The Rebel:- actually not, but my wife was cleaning the upstairs window, and had reversed them to do the outside. " Help" her panicked scream alerted me from downstairs, I sprang up and the window was about to topple out, I shouted to my new friend to come and help, and he fixed the window, so without a strong wind it was secure, until the professional help arrived.
That is what happened and if I meet the " guy" in town I now consider us good friends. Yet I still don't know his name.
The Rebel.
instead i would rather spend my days picking fresh cherries from a tree, in fact i am having so much fun i have got the whole family involved, and the freezer is full of red berries, black currents, and today is more strawberry picking.
i have also gone to a farm and made my own yummy honey.. anyway have you been berry picking?
do you have any ideas how i can really enjoy my fresh goodies?
LoveUnHateExams: " Just about the only thing that keeps me interested in the W.T is the paedophile issue. Governments needs to deal with that"
The Rebel. I would also like to acknowledge the Police Obsceinity Squard, and Laywers and most importantly those that have the courage to report such matters to the correct channels. Nonetheless I believe as an individual in my former congregation the best witness I can give to the " mind controlled" members is to be FREE! FREE! ...to bring myself, my wife and child up in a world where we are FREE, from the watchtower.
The Rebel.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
Kate your point of view is always valued to me. Why? Because you have in your post history revealed everything's about yourself, and your qualifications, and you are always sincere. If such self expression at times is wrong, then I would be happy to be a fool.
Anyway my point is we come on the board and we collect the material together, spending painstaking hours, even months reaching our conclusion, that doesn't make our point of view correct, but with the helpful co-operation of positive comments we can challenge our thinking, and humbly correct our viewpoint if wrong. As for your O.P " I conclude evolution is guided" the comments were beyond me, so I must answer. Who knows? Certainly not me? But I think the O.P will educate me with the answers. Thanks for that.
instead i would rather spend my days picking fresh cherries from a tree, in fact i am having so much fun i have got the whole family involved, and the freezer is full of red berries, black currents, and today is more strawberry picking.
i have also gone to a farm and made my own yummy honey.. anyway have you been berry picking?
do you have any ideas how i can really enjoy my fresh goodies?
I would just like to add, on one of my walks along the canal to pick berries I met an ex-witnesss, and if you think i am sad berry picking, he had a pair of binoculars around his neck and had taken up bird watching. And why not? I am glad he likes poking around the countryside with his bird watcher friends watching birds, in a dirty green floppy hat, a mackintosh, and waterproof pants. I hope today he discovers a rare bird and gets over-existed. ( Think about it, it's better than knocking on doors, now that's weird :-)
The Rebel.
after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
Slim , my hyper-space friend, thank you for your posts, some of your comments were to the say the least sensational, but your point of view always fascinating. May I end my post by simply offering you my warmest " heartfelt" hope your future "if" away from the board is a happy one.
The Rebel.
